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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Quote Originally Posted by magnarc View Post
    From Steves little pic on the other board, it seems the 803 Utah doesnt have the magnet cover, while the 803A Utah does, plus the other noted changes.
    That's cool - the first "original 803" that I've seen. I am surprised that those haven't come up on e-pay... they must be rare indeed.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Shore View Post
    That's cool - the first "original 803" that I've seen. I am surprised that those haven't come up on e-pay... they must be rare indeed.
    Same!

    You see a few Utah 803As from time to time.

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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    You see a few Utah 803As from time to time.
    We should probably call them "Utah framed" before another urban legend is born.

    Otherwise, there's gonna be folks out there claiming their 803's, 600B's, and a handful of field coil 601's were made by Utah just like their model 14, and 15 woofers were made by RCA.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Either RonSSS, or Cal Weldon has also posted pics of both their tangerine and non-tangerine equipped 23746's
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    IIRC I have 802, 808, 908 and 288's Do any of those match up with the 23746? The ones I have with Tangerines are the 908's and the tweeters in the 604-8H's AFAIK. I could do some research if it's needed.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Hi guys, just getting caught up again with this thread. AFAIK a Utah frame first shows up in an Altec product with the appearance of the 601 field coil Duplex in 1943 or so. At about the same time the Iconic woofer became the 815U with the Utah stamped steel basket, and other utility grade speakers used the same basket and received a U designation:

    1943

    Note this Utah basket has four holes; the six holer seems to have come along a few years later. Utah continued to use both frames for decades. I have a dozen four holer frames from the Seeburg Discotheque systems that a friend and I had collected for a run of repro 601 Duplexes... hasn't happened yet.

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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Steve to the best info I have it was during WW II when aluminum could not be had even if you sold your soul. That fits with your info.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Cast aluminum or stamped steel? Why would a well designed stamped steel basket be any way inferior to a cast aluminum one?
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Quote Originally Posted by VolvoHeretic View Post
    Cast aluminum or stamped steel? Why would a well designed stamped steel basket be any way inferior to a cast aluminum one?
    Steel bends easily. Just a small drop can knock a heavy motor out of alignment. Cast aluminum of sufficient thickness is much more stable in the same application.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    As bowtie mentioned, the only mention of the 806-8B is in the 1975 catalogue.

    Link http://lansingheritage.org/images/al...ome/page05.jpg

    Same catalogue with 'pictures' http://lansingheritage.org/images/al...ome/page18.jpg


    It is also the only place I've seen a mention/artistic image of the 802-8E, which I believe went into production/became the 802-8G.
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    Re: Clarification on 803, 804, 805 & 806

    Quote Originally Posted by magnarc View Post
    As bowtie mentioned, the only mention of the 806-8B is in the 1975 catalogue.
    It is also the only place I've seen a mention/artistic image of the 802-8E, which I believe went into production/became the 802-8G.
    Not quite.
    The 1976 Home Catalog specifies the 806-8B as the HF component for the A7-8 system. You can also see the 802-8E mentioned (and even pictured) a few times in that same document.

    The 802-8E is also referenced in a few pro catalogs in that '75/'76 period mainly as components for A7-8 systems.
    It looks like during 75/76 that the 806-8B, being the smaller driver was used for 800 Hz crossover applications, while the 802-8E was the bigger 500 Hz unit. It is interesting that the late '75 service/repair catalog was still showing 806-8A as the HF component for these 800Hz systems.

    By later in 1976, the 802-8G had apparently replaced the 802-8E for 500Hz applications...I suppose that coincides with the release of the tangerine phase plug?
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